. is it the pan c.i.a., no, but kit make a difference -- it can make a conference. >> jon: the hollow point, things only used for the military application, those are the other things you would like to be done. >> yes. these are all heavy lifts. it's not easy to do. if new york new york state you o to a registered ammunition dealer and you need a check to buy ammunition. >> jon: has there been any talk to enforce the laws and to stem the flow of illegal guns, any talk that once you get that list you'll be able to go house to house and take all law abiding citizens weapons, their guns, knives you think are too large, in kind of mallet and take that so people will live under tyranny. has that been a discussion? >> no. >> jon: would you tell me. >> you'd be the first to know. >> jon: you feel there are efficient measures to take that wouldn't necessarily overstep. >> there are 300 million guns in this country and they are going to be there. the supreme court decision columbia versus heller makes certain that the second amendment is going be alive and well. >> jon: as well it should be but we ha